NIETC Tribal Energy Access Public 2025-01-14 [Ellen White] 00:00:00 OK. [Ellen White] 00:00:01 I think we still have some people joining, but we're going to go ahead and get started. [Ellen White] 00:00:05 Good afternoon, everyone. [Ellen White] 00:00:07 We're happy to have everyone here today for the informational webinar on the potential Tribal Energy Access Corridor. [Ellen White] 00:00:15 My name is Ellen White with Argonne National Laboratory and we are assisting the Grid Deployment office in their NIETC designation process effort. [Ellen White] 00:00:25 So I'm going to go over a few housekeeping items run through the agenda before I pass this along to the GDO. [Ellen White] 00:00:32 So for housekeeping, this webinar will be recorded and it will be posted to the NIETC website which is listed below and I believe someone will add that website to the chat as well. [Ellen White] 00:00:45 The chat function and microphones are disabled for this webinar, and the Q&A function will be accessible. [Ellen White] 00:00:54 Questions will be collected and used to develop an FAQ document. [Ellen White] 00:00:58 We won't be providing any responses during the webinar today, but please feel free if questions come up to use the Q&A function to ask those questions. [Ellen White] 00:01:08 It'll either be at the bottom of your of of the page or possibly under the tab or the button. [Ellen White] 00:01:16 More with the three dots behind it and closed captioning is also available and that's also under that more button at the bottom of the screen and just select closed captioning. [Ellen White] 00:01:31 OK? [Ellen White] 00:01:31 For the agenda today, first we're going to go through some introductions, explain the GDO and what kinds of work the office does. [Ellen White] 00:01:39 We'll walk you through the NIETC designation process and then describe the quarter we're all here to talk about today, which is the potential tribal energy access corridor. [Ellen White] 00:01:52 And lastly, we're going to discuss how you can engage and comment on the potential corridor or any of the other corridors that you might be interested in. [Ellen White] 00:02:00 So with that, I'm going to pass the presentation over to Pat Hoffman, who is the Principal Deputy Director of the Grid Deployment Office. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:02:09 Good afternoon and thank you all for joining us today. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:02:11 And I do want to express my thank you to the team for all their hard work in doing the Transmission Needs Study as well as looking at potential National Interest Electric Transmission Corridors. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:02:24 So what is GDO. GDO is the Grid Deployment Office. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:02:28 It is a newly newly established office in 2022 at the US Department of Energy. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:02:35 The mission of GDO is really to take a hard look at ensuring resource adequacy as well as ensuring electric markets recognize critical generation, flexible generation as part of market operations. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:02:51 In addition, the Grid Deployment Office is focused on transforming the electric grid by investing in new capacity, new and upgraded high, high capacity electric transmission lines as well as improving the capacity and capabilities of our distribution system. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:03:10 The third area that the Grid Deployment Office focuses on is resilience. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:03:16 The unfortunate wildfire events that are occurring in California and other areas as well as the damage that is ongoing from hurricanes. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:03:26 We recognize the need for long term investments, transformational investments that really take a look at the long term for how the grid should be structured in the in the future for flexibility, reliability and resilience. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:03:43 The Grid Deployment Office currently oversees about 22 billion in funding from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the Inflation Reduction Act, and annual appropriations really to fulfill that mission of helping transform and deploy solutions to lower energy costs and improve grid reliability and resilience. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:04:05 We we work very closely with states, Tribes, territories, industry, communities and other energy sector stakeholders to to ensure that our program support robust investments and appropriate investments in generation, transmission and the distribution system. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:04:25 And we know these investments are the backbone of America's economic and security in the United States. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:04:34 Next slide, please. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:04:37 So what is a NIETC? [Patricia Hoffman] 00:04:39 A National Interest Electric Transmission Corridor is an area of the country where an adequate transmission harms consumers, whether it's now or in the future. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:04:50 DOE is congressionally authorized to identify and designate national interest electric transmission corridors under the Federal Power Act, which is 216.a, in case anybody wants to look it up of the Federal Power Act. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:05:06 It was amended by the IIJA or the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act to really expand some of the things that they asked us to do, which was actually from our from the, from the amendment was asked us to do not only a Needs Study, a Transmission Needs Study that was retrospective as some of the prior Transmission Needs Studies, but it's also a forward-looking study. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:05:36 And so DOE has conducted that Transmission Needs Study and that study is available on the Department of Energy’s website. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:05:46 So what is the result of all this information? [Patricia Hoffman] 00:05:49 Basically, the Secretary, if they choose, can designate a NIETC. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:05:56 And the NIETC is based on the presence of pressing transmission needs in an area based on the findings from the Transmission Needs Study. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:06:04 And that is once again the triannual state of the electric grid report that assesses current and expected transmission capacity constraints and congestion, as well as other information that is provided by stakeholders. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:06:19 In addition, the the other activities that we look at is relevant factors such as whether NIETC could further national energy policy, maximize the use of existing rights away and reduce electricity costs for for consumers. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:06:36 Designating a NIETC focuses public and policy makers attention on the greatest areas of need for transmission and unlocks several tools for investment and transmission deployment. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:06:49 Some of these programs are listed here, the Transmission Facilitation Program, the Transmission Financing program, both of those are a borrowing authority that allows for financial investments. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:01 The third area is a federal siting and permitting authority, but this authority is carried out by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and that is done under a separate process. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:12 So let me just take a quick moment and talk about the two financing opportunities that we have. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:20 First is next slide first is the Transmission Facility Facilitation Program. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:30 This is a 2 1/2 billion revolving fund borrowing authority. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:34 It really allows us to do three things. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:37 It allows us to do capacity contracts, public private partnerships, and loans. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:43 NIETC is not a requirement but does enable and projects can be enabled through a NIETC designation as of 2024. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:52 As you can see here, DOE has already made selections for the Transmission Facilitation Program. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:07:59 The ones are listed on the graphic here and these selections are to really look at capacity contracts to allow for that capacity purchase allowing the building of transmission lines. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:08:14 Next slide, the other financing opportunity is the Transmission Facility Financing program. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:08:23 This authorization allows DOE to provide direct loans for transmission, but it has to be designated by the Secretary to be in the national interest. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:08:35 So we must have a National Interest Electric Transmission Corridor designation to access the approximately $2 billion of federal funds available, which can be used for a credit subsidy cost of loans. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:08:50 So once again, this is another financing opportunity that can be used to invest in transmission projects. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:08:57 We're hoping to take advantage of this process if the secretary so chooses to make an NIETC designation. [Patricia Hoffman] 00:09:04 So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Molly Roy to handle the next segment of the presentation. [Molly Roy] 00:09:11 Thank you, Pat and Ellen and everyone for being here. [Molly Roy] 00:9:14 My name is Molly Roy. [Molly Roy] 00:09:15 I'm a Senior Project Manager with the Grid Deployment Office and here to talk more about the NIETC designation process and the specific potential corridor, the Tribal Energy Access Corridor. [Molly Roy] 00:09:25 So in December 2023 GDO, we announced a four phase process that you see depicted here on the screen for how we would go about designating a corridor or determining whether to designate a corridor. [Molly Roy] 00:09:41 So at the in December 2023, we kicked off the first phase one window where we asked for public comments or from any interested parties to let us know where a corridor should or should not be. [Molly Roy] 00:09:55 Based on that information that we received and as well as our own analysis from the National Transmission Needs Study and other work, we put together a preliminary list and of 10 potential corridors. [Molly Roy] 00:10:11 That was the kick off of phase two, which was done last May 2024. [Molly Roy] 00:10:17 So we put out that list of 10 potential corridors, got more comments and information on those areas. [Molly Roy] 00:10:23 And based on that, about a month ago kicked off phase three where we narrowed down from 10 quarters to three as well as further refine the boundaries and narrowed the boundaries of those three that we're now currently considering. [Molly Roy] 00:10:38 So now we're currently in another public comment period. [Molly Roy] 00:10:41 The point of this four phase process was to be iterative. [Molly Roy] 00:10:44 So we have many rounds of engagement and hoping to continue to do that. [Molly Roy] 00:10:50 So with these three, we now have this public comment period as I stated and we will also be conducting any required environmental reviews, which we'll also talk a bit more about. [Molly Roy] 00:11:02 And then the Phase 4 is when the final NIETC designation would be issued. [Molly Roy] 00:11:10 So as Pat, if the Secretary chooses to designate a corridor, that would be phase four and the end of the process. [Molly Roy] 00:11:16 But there's a lot of steps and decisions to be made between now and then, which we will get more into. [Molly Roy] 00:11:23 So if we can go to the next slide, this is the list of what each of the three quarters that we're still considering. [Molly Roy] 00:11:33 We, we think they all meet these criteria. [Molly Roy] 00:11:35 So first of all, each of the potential NIETCs supports critical transmission development to address these unmet through existing planning processes. [Molly Roy] 00:11:45 They each address key findings in DOE’s 2023 National Transmission Needs Study, which as Pat said is posted on GDO’s website. [Molly Roy] 00:11:55 It also aligns these quarters also align with other DOE priorities. [Molly Roy] 00:12:00 They demonstrated clear utility of NIETC designation to further transmission. [Molly Roy] 00:12:06 So meaning the tools that Pat was talking about will be able to be used or we believe they'd be able to be used in these NIETCs corridors to to advance transmission in the near term. [Molly Roy] 00:12:19 They also contain sufficient information in order to narrow the boundaries, which is important to facilitate a timely environmental review if required. [Molly Roy] 00:12:30 And by choosing three and the three that we've chosen, we believe we've balanced DOE resources in order to achieve a timely and durable designation that can fall from the robust public engagement that we think each of these corridors deserves. [Molly Roy] 00:12:46 So if we go to the next slide, we'll talk more about the particular corridor that we're focusing on today. [Molly Roy] 00:12:53 So the potential Tribal Energy Access corridor you can see here on the screen. [Molly Roy] 00:12:58 And just so you know, a little bit later in the presentation, we'll show a web platform how you can dive more into the very specific boundaries of how the quarter is currently drawn. [Molly Roy] 00:13:09 As I said, we're still taking comment. [Molly Roy] 00:13:10 Many will have multiple rounds of engagement going forward, so these boundaries could still be adjusted based on that feedback, but you'll be able to look specifically at where the lines are drawn right now. [Molly Roy] 00:13:21 So to go through some information on this corridor, geographically, as you can see on the map, it includes parts of North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska. [Molly Roy] 00:13:30 It also runs through five Tribal reservations. [Molly Roy] 00:13:34 It follows mostly existing line rights of way, and it ranges from 1 to 15 miles wide depending on where you are in the corridor. [Molly Roy] 00:13:44 Transmission in this potential corridor could alleviate congestion and reduce consumer costs in the region. [Molly Roy] 00:13:51 And it could increase integration of new energy supplies and meet future demand growth. [Molly Roy] 00:13:56 And it can facilitate Tribal energy and economic development by addressing a lack of extra high voltage transmission in this area. [Molly Roy] 00:14:04 So that's really the value we see that could come from transmission development here. [Molly Roy] 00:14:09 And we are aware of a transmission project under development here. [Molly Roy] 00:14:15 So you see that listed there. [Molly Roy] 00:14:16 It's the Transmission and Renewables Interstate Bulk Electric Supply project or TRIBES for short. [Molly Roy] 00:14:22 And it's being proposed by a number of entities you can see listed here on the screen. [Molly Roy] 00:14:30 So if we can go to the next slide, this is an overview of the timeline and next steps. [Molly Roy] 00:14:38 There isn't specific dates on any of the further out steps since this will be dependent on the decisions that we need to make still. [Molly Roy] 00:14:48 So the first step on the timeline here in January, we're holding webinars for each of these NIETCs. [Molly Roy] 00:14:56 Then the public comment period, which I'll talk more about how you can comment if desired, will close in February, at which point we'll be consolidating and reviewing those comments. [Molly Roy] 00:15:07 The next step is we'll talk more about this on the next slide, but we will be determining whether NEPA applies to these corridor designations and if so then determine the appropriate level of NEPA analysis for each corridor and we aim to make that determination in the spring. [Molly Roy] 00:15:26 The next step on the timeline at the bottom is related to the Transmission Facility Financing program that with that mentioned, we have not yet opened the formal application process. [Molly Roy] 00:15:35 So targeting to do that this summer. [Molly Roy] 00:15:37 Pending these decisions and then as the NEPA determination is made, we would conduct any required environmental reviews, which could significantly affect the timeline. [Molly Roy] 00:15:49 Based on what level of review we need to do for the environmental reviews and also for the designation reports, we will be conducting additional public engagement. [Molly Roy] 00:16:01 So just know that this current public comment period is not the last one. [Molly Roy] 00:16:06 You'll have more opportunities to engage. [Molly Roy] 00:16:08 And just one last note in green, you see at the bottom each of the three corridors that we're looking at right now, we'll be proceeding through this timeline independently based on any specifics needed for the region as well as DOE staff and resources. [Molly Roy] 00:16:24 So the next slide, I believe I'm handing it over, yes, handing it over to Ellen to talk more about this NEPA determination as well as show you the map mapping what platform we have. [Ellen White] 00:16:35 OK, thank you, Molly. [Ellen White] 00:16:37 Yes, part of the process that Molly described above was NEPA determination. [Ellen White] 00:16:43 So I'll just go into a little bit of detail as to what that means. [Ellen White] 00:16:47 The National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, requires federal agencies to assess the environmental effects of a proposed major federal action that may significantly impact or affect the quality of the human environment. [Ellen White] 00:17:02 So the first step in determining the level of NEPA analysis is to decide if in fact NIETC designation is a major federal action. [Ellen White] 00:17:10 And so if it is not, if the GDO determined that it is not, then no NEPA analysis or documentation would be required. [Ellen White] 00:17:19 And that's this pointing note down here. [Ellen White] 00:17:22 If however, it a NIETC designation is determined to be a major federal action, then they must assess what effect the action has on the human environment. [Ellen White] 00:17:33 So if the NIETC designation is an action that normally does not have a significant effect, it would be categorically excluded from detailed environmental analysis. [Ellen White] 00:17:45 If it is unlikely or unknown to have significant effects, then the GDO would prepare an environmental assessment. [Ellen White] 00:17:56 And through that environmental assessment, if the GDO determines that there would be no significant environmental effects, they would issue a finding of no significant impacts, which presents the reasons why the GDO concluded that there are no significant environmental effects. [Ellen White] 00:18:14 If, however, the GDO expects NIETC designation to have reasonably foreseeable significant effects, they would prepare an environmental impact statement. [Ellen White] 00:18:23 And that's the last row down here. [Ellen White] 00:18:26 And an environmental impact statement or an EIS is a detailed multidisciplinary document that analyzes the environmental, social and economic effects from a specific proposed action. [Ellen White] 00:18:37 It includes public opportunity, public input opportunity, and concludes in a record of decision, which is the agency's decision on the action. [Ellen White] 00:18:49 So that's just a brief overview of determining level of NEPA and what what each of these levels would result in. [Ellen White] 00:18:58 And you can go to the next slide. [Ellen White] 00:19:02 OK, so this next slide is for the Geospatial Energy Mapper, also known as GEM and you can find it at gem.anl.gov. [Ellen White] 00:19:11 And I think we're going to put that website also in the chat so that you can link to it. [Ellen White] 00:19:17 And GEM is an online mapping data and analysis tool, has an extensive catalog of layers that can be used for energy planning, including energy resources and infrastructure and other information that can influence sighting of those. [Ellen White] 00:19:33 Users can browse and download different data layers. [Ellen White] 00:19:37 And I'm going to do a quick overview where we can look at the different layers that are available. [Ellen White] 00:19:42 I'll show you how to access the layer for the Tribal Energy Access corridor, and so just bear with me while I pull it up and we can do a live demo. [Ellen White] 00:19:59 OK, Should be up here now. [Ellen White] 00:20:01 So this is the home screen when you get to gem.anl.gov. [Ellen White] 00:20:05 There's a subscribe button here if you want to get on the mailing list. [Ellen White] 00:20:08 Tutorials, links to videos or tutorials if you need a little extra help after this webinar. [Ellen White] 00:20:15 Kind of making your way through this mapping tool and then you can launch GEM by clicking here or it's also in the upper right hand corner, launch GEM. [Ellen White] 00:20:25 So I'll click on that. [Ellen White] 00:20:26 It opens a new window and here's the tool. [Ellen White] 00:20:30 So in the middle there's the the map. [Ellen White] 00:20:33 It's empty right now. [Ellen White] 00:20:34 There's no layers on it. [Ellen White] 00:20:35 You'll be able to access layers by accessing the layers on the left hand side of the screen and then on the right is the legend. [Ellen White] 00:20:43 So as you populate layers onto the map, they will also populate into this legend so that you can see what layers you have up. [Ellen White] 00:20:50 So we're going to start by going all the way down to mapping themes and the mapping themes are categorized by topic. [Ellen White] 00:20:57 They have pre populated layers in them based on the topic. [Ellen White] 00:21:02 And we're going to click on this potential NIETCs. [Ellen White] 00:21:06 And if we click on that, all the layers associated with this mapping theme, the NIETC theme will pop up and it is in blue, the potential NIETCs in red. [Ellen White] 00:21:20 We've got transmission lines of various sizes and then also the Federal Land or Service Management Agency layer. [Ellen White] 00:21:27 And so we can use this little plus and minus to zoom into our area of interest here. [Ellen White] 00:21:37 So you can see, here's the Tribal Energy Access corridor, the transmission lines around in the surface management agency layers. [Ellen White] 00:21:44 You can see the Tribal lands in like orange right here. [Ellen White] 00:21:48 So if you're interested in, say, a specific resource, we're going to use cultural resources. [Ellen White] 00:21:55 And as an example here you can go up to up to explore the layer catalog. [Ellen White] 00:22:08 And here's the list of all the layers. [Ellen White] 00:22:10 I believe there's 240 of them. [Ellen White] 00:22:12 So rather than scroll through and trying to find yours, you can either search by keyword or it's conveniently divided by category here. [Ellen White] 00:22:21 So you could look at cultural biology, any of those. [Ellen White] 00:22:28 If you want to click on cultural, looks like there's the the National Historic Landmark. [Ellen White] 00:22:34 Both area and point data are available for cultural layers. [Ellen White] 00:22:38 Once you click on this in the, it's checked with the blue, it's already added it to the map, the layer to the map, and then you can see on the right sand side here it has the name of the layer that's highlighted right now. [Ellen White] 00:22:50 So National Historic Landmark point data has the source data, the Park Service and the the date that the data was published and updated. [Ellen White] 00:22:59 If you want more information about the data, you can click on metadata. [Ellen White] 00:23:03 It opens a new window that will give you additional information. [Ellen White] 00:23:06 And you can also download the layers to computer yourself. [Ellen White] 00:23:10 If you don't, if if you want to view the layer through your own computer, your own GIS system. [Ellen White] 00:23:17 So because those are both checked, I'm going to X out of here and you'll see that it's populated. [Ellen White] 00:23:22 The National Historic Landmark point and area data is in gray. [Ellen White] 00:23:27 You see a few of those there. [Ellen White] 00:23:31 Now if for instance, you had your own layer that is not included in the layers that are already in GEM, you can click on file right here and upload your own shape files. [Ellen White] 00:23:42 And it will populate GEM with your shape files. [Ellen White] 00:23:45 If there's a certain species or other types of data that you would like to see through this tool in proximity to the to the NIETC. [Ellen White] 00:23:56 And lastly, you can also click on. [Ellen White] 00:24:00 Then let's see here. [Ellen White] 00:24:01 The same screen comes up that it did before where you see the category type source metadata. [Ellen White] 00:24:06 And you can also download. [Ellen White] 00:24:07 So you can download either through here or through the layer catalog. [Ellen White] 00:24:10 Then it's the corridor so that you can have access to the shape files for the corridors to use on your own computer. [Ellen White] 00:24:19 I'll just explain a couple of other quick things here. [Ellen White] 00:24:22 These circles are just ways you can view the data on the on the mapper. [Ellen White] 00:24:26 So here's how you can remove the layer. [Ellen White] 00:24:28 If you're done using it and you don't or you're find out it's not helpful to you, this hide or show is great. [Ellen White] 00:24:35 If you have multiple layers up and it's kind of hard to tell what's going on, you can simply hide them. [Ellen White] 00:24:41 It does. [Ellen White] 00:24:41 It's still in the legend, it's still technically on the map, and then you can bring them back. [Ellen White] 00:24:46 Alternately, you can adjust the transparency so you can make it really light or really dark. [Ellen White] 00:24:54 And then let's see, the last two things I'm just going to mention is that you can measure and draw lines, polygons, or areas or distances. [Ellen White] 00:25:03 If you want to know how close, say, this National Historic Landmark point data is, you can use the measure tool. [Ellen White] 00:25:11 If you know of some resource, but you don't have a data source for it, you can kind of, oh, it's around here, circle it. [Ellen White] 00:25:17 And then you can print your map too, when you're done. [Ellen White] 00:25:19 And if you have all the layers up, you want to have a visual representation of the map, you can print it. [Ellen White] 00:25:24 So that was a really quick overview, but we recommend that you play around with it, get to know how to use it. [Ellen White] 00:25:31 It could be really helpful in providing comments about location specific data that you might have or, or concerns you have about certain resources. [Ellen White] 00:25:41 So I'm going to stop sharing now and hand it back to Molly. [Molly Roy] 00:25:48 Thanks, Ellen. [Molly Roy] 00:25:48 So we just have just a one or two more slides. [Molly Roy] 00:25:52 So as we mentioned, we're in a public comment period. [Molly Roy] 00:25:56 On December 16th, we published a notice in the Federal Register that is seeking comments on our next steps of both analysis and public engagement. [Molly Roy] 00:26:05 So on the three bullets you see on the screen, that's the information that we're really seeking and put on. [Molly Roy] 00:26:12 So to start environmental, cultural or socio economic effects that may occur should DOE designate any of the potential NIETCs. [Molly Roy] 00:26:22 Also we're seeking comments on the contents of our proposed public engagement framework as well as any unique public engagement and governmental consultation factors that we should account for in each potential NIETC. [Molly Roy] 00:26:35 So as we're going forward in this process, as we determine what environmental review is needed, but and further consider during the transmission need, what are the most effective ways we could engage in these areas where if we're coming to do in person meetings, are there particular places or existing avenues that we we could join? [Molly Roy] 00:26:58 Is there a particular kind of time of year to consider? [Molly Roy] 00:27:02 Is there, you know, existing groups that would be best to communicate through, whether it's in a meeting or in a newsletter or anything like that? [Molly Roy] 00:27:16 Just some examples of the kind of information we're hoping to gather so that we can further engage as we move through phase three. [Molly Roy] 00:27:24 We're also accepting meeting requests. [Molly Roy] 00:27:27 So you can e-mail NIETC@hq.doe.gov. [Molly Roy] 00:27:32 And I believe it was also shared in the chat with, again, this will be a consideration of our staff and resources if we don't have the capacity to accept every, every request, but we may be able to group meetings based on maybe topic, geography or other common feature. [Molly Roy] 00:27:51 That's a way that we could potentially accommodate more. [Molly Roy] 00:27:54 And yes, there's one more slide. [Molly Roy] 00:27:59 Thank you. [Molly Roy] 00:28:00 So the last slide is how to submit your comments. [Molly Roy] 00:28:02 So there's a few ways. [Molly Roy] 00:28:04 There's hard copy mail. [Molly Roy] 00:28:06 We have the address here. [Molly Roy] 00:28:08 There is our e-mail address still. [Molly Roy] 00:28:10 So you can use that for meeting requests, comments, questions. [Molly Roy] 00:28:14 You can e-mail us and it'll get to our team. [Molly Roy] 00:28:17 And then regulations.gov is also where the Federal Register dockets are located. [Molly Roy] 00:28:22 So you can also comment that way. [Molly Roy] 00:28:23 And it will also get to us. [Molly Roy] 00:28:25 And there's two options here. [Molly Roy] 00:28:27 The first one is the general one that is the docket for all three NIETCs to get of all three of the potential NIETCs that we're considering right now in phase three together. [Molly Roy] 00:28:37 And then the last one is for the specific corridor that we're talking about today, the Tribal Energy Access Corridor. [Molly Roy] 00:28:43 So a number of different ways you can submit comments. [Molly Roy] 00:28:47 We would definitely love to hear from you. [Molly Roy] 00:28:51 As we said, we won't be doing live Q&A now, but we will leave this open for another 5 minutes in case you want to put your Q&A here in the Q&A box that you should see on the bottom of your screen or under the More menu. [Molly Roy] 00:29:08 And again, if you think of questions later, please feel free to e-mail us at NIETC@hq.doe.gov. [Molly Roy] 00:29:17 And with that, thank you so much for your time. [Molly Roy] 00:29:19 We appreciate everyone joining today and we'll leave this open if you have questions you want to share.